Comments on: Six Reasons To Look Past Caspio http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/ Derek Willis' weblog on investigative and computer-assisted reporting. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:32:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris K http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-173888 Chris K Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:09:48 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-173888 Why do I have to find this post every time I am trying to find an answer on how to do something...? Great post, and David's responses are also enlightening. Why do I have to find this post every time I am trying to find an answer on how to do something…? Great post, and David’s responses are also enlightening.

]]> By: Tim H http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-173740 Tim H Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:28:44 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-173740 I just found this post, looking literally for alternatives to Caspio! I agree wholeheartedly with Derek but I find unexpected resistance from editors who have come to expect "data" that sits in a limited area embedded on a page and has no further links to worry about. Some also seem to like the generic-ness of it, that instead of showing information, you display a choice like "Choose a county" that can be handed out to nearby newspapers without a change. As much as I rebel against that idea (why not feed me a variable I can use to detect the publication and customize it?) against my better judgment I feel like I should have a non-Caspio option with the same functionality. Has anybody tried just replicating functionality, by opening a div with a search form, and popping the results right into the div? I see a discussion here I just found this post, looking literally for alternatives to Caspio! I agree wholeheartedly with Derek but I find unexpected resistance from editors who have come to expect “data” that sits in a limited area embedded on a page and has no further links to worry about. Some also seem to like the generic-ness of it, that instead of showing information, you display a choice like “Choose a county” that can be handed out to nearby newspapers without a change. As much as I rebel against that idea (why not feed me a variable I can use to detect the publication and customize it?) against my better judgment I feel like I should have a non-Caspio option with the same functionality. Has anybody tried just replicating functionality, by opening a div with a search form, and popping the results right into the div?
I see a discussion here

]]> By: Chris Keller http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-173458 Chris Keller Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:31:43 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-173458 I like both sides of this post. Both are right. One one hand, after data was gathered by sports staff it took me 35 minutes to use Caspio to put together a submit and update admin to allow them to update it. On the other, I built full well knowing the ceiling was limited and wanting to know how to roll with a django backend to really see what this thing can do. Unfortunately that takes longer than 35 minutes. But I have the want, will and some background to move in the latter direction. Now I just need time to get there. I like both sides of this post. Both are right.

One one hand, after data was gathered by sports staff it took me 35 minutes to use Caspio to put together a submit and update admin to allow them to update it.

On the other, I built full well knowing the ceiling was limited and wanting to know how to roll with a django backend to really see what this thing can do. Unfortunately that takes longer than 35 minutes.

But I have the want, will and some background to move in the latter direction. Now I just need time to get there.

]]> By: Ryan S. http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-166080 Ryan S. Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:51:34 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-166080 So, as a current Caspio customer, I have to disagree with the majority of this article. Maybe its just because this article is outdated or written from a perspective of feeling threatened by Caspio's happy customers, which seems to be a lot of people. First off, Caspio actually has a pretty good SEO tool, has saved us so much time/money and is well worth the low-monthly subscription, has unlimited users unlike all the others, and the best part, it allows us to do really powerful stuff without having to code or be a programmer. However, we have brought in programmers to quickly build API integrations to do even cooler stuff. Not sure why, developers feel threatened, when instead shouldn't they be inspired to innovate. And when it comes down to it, the focus should be on helping the end business user, not saving your job. The value achieved from cloud computing and DaaS has been proven. And, I dont think the guy who made black/white TVs was so upset when Color TVs came out and took over his product line. Developers will always be needed, desired, and appreciated...but just in different places. So, as a current Caspio customer, I have to disagree with the majority of this article. Maybe its just because this article is outdated or written from a perspective of feeling threatened by Caspio’s happy customers, which seems to be a lot of people. First off, Caspio actually has a pretty good SEO tool, has saved us so much time/money and is well worth the low-monthly subscription, has unlimited users unlike all the others, and the best part, it allows us to do really powerful stuff without having to code or be a programmer. However, we have brought in programmers to quickly build API integrations to do even cooler stuff. Not sure why, developers feel threatened, when instead shouldn’t they be inspired to innovate. And when it comes down to it, the focus should be on helping the end business user, not saving your job. The value achieved from cloud computing and DaaS has been proven. And, I dont think the guy who made black/white TVs was so upset when Color TVs came out and took over his product line. Developers will always be needed, desired, and appreciated…but just in different places.

]]> By: Six Reasons To Look Past Caspio :: The Scoop | Invisible Inkling http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-160354 Six Reasons To Look Past Caspio :: The Scoop | Invisible Inkling Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:42:46 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-160354 [...] Six Reasons To Look Past Caspio :: The Scoop [...] [...] Six Reasons To Look Past Caspio :: The Scoop [...]

]]> By: Alex Farokhyans http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-157732 Alex Farokhyans Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:33:59 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-157732 As Dan mentioned, we used 'caspio-like' technology in the early days and eventually outgrew it. Today we're using a code generator (www.ironspeed.com) to build custom web apps. It generates a standard crud app and gives us the flexibility to customize. As Dan mentioned, we used ‘caspio-like’ technology in the early days and eventually outgrew it. Today we’re using a code generator (www.ironspeed.com) to build custom web apps. It generates a standard crud app and gives us the flexibility to customize.

]]> By: Brad B http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-152043 Brad B Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:57:36 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-152043 As a Caspio client I can say this is a great alternative to hiring one or two developers to create a database for you. I've done it both ways and there are always issues no matter which way you go, however I got more from our Caspio team than trying to do it ourselves. We developed and launched our internal and external apps in 2 months compared to 4-6 using in house people. As a Caspio client I can say this is a great alternative to hiring one or two developers to create a database for you. I’ve done it both ways and there are always issues no matter which way you go, however I got more from our Caspio team than trying to do it ourselves. We developed and launched our internal and external apps in 2 months compared to 4-6 using in house people.

]]> By: Data Delver: Mark Schaver, Louisville Courier | Michelle Minkoff http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-148531 Data Delver: Mark Schaver, Louisville Courier | Michelle Minkoff Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:46:55 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-148531 [...] where others are coming from who believe we can do better (see Derek Willis’ posts here for some quick bullet points, or here for a longer explanation, to learn more about this [...] [...] where others are coming from who believe we can do better (see Derek Willis’ posts here for some quick bullet points, or here for a longer explanation, to learn more about this [...]

]]> By: First step in bringing change: find the believers |  http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-133114 First step in bringing change: find the believers |  Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:17:42 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-133114 [...] are using Caspio to create and host data apps, sans programming. I am not a fan, for reasons Derek Willis sums up much better than I could, but if you have no other options, it’s better than sitting on your [...] [...] are using Caspio to create and host data apps, sans programming. I am not a fan, for reasons Derek Willis sums up much better than I could, but if you have no other options, it’s better than sitting on your [...]

]]> By: Kelso’s Corner » Blog Archive » Building the Data Desk: Lessons From the L.A. Times (Knight Digital Media Center) http://blog.thescoop.org/archives/2008/08/18/six-reasons-to-look-past-caspio/comment-page-1/#comment-132612 Kelso’s Corner » Blog Archive » Building the Data Desk: Lessons From the L.A. Times (Knight Digital Media Center) Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:12:15 +0000 http://blog.thescoop.org/?p=5159#comment-132612 [...] are using Caspio to create and host data apps, sans programming. I am not a fan, for reasons Derek Willis sums up much better than I could, but if you have no other options, it’s better than sitting on your [...] [...] are using Caspio to create and host data apps, sans programming. I am not a fan, for reasons Derek Willis sums up much better than I could, but if you have no other options, it’s better than sitting on your [...]

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